Cali Sober Mom

No More F*s Given: How Women are Connecting Cannabis Culture Across States

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In this episode of Cali Sober Mom, Monica and Britney sit down with Shelby, founder of Betty Bloom and marketing director for Happy Days Dispensary, to explore how women are driving change in cannabis culture across different states. From navigating patriarchal norms to building inclusive communities, they discuss the power of connection, the challenges of marketing in a divided industry, and why it’s time to give no more f*s and own your voice. If you’re ready to rethink the future of cannabis and women’s role in it, this one’s for you.

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Monica Olano [00:00:00]:

Welcome to the Cali Sober mom podcast. Monica and Brittany are changing the conversation about motherhood, cannabis and mental health, considering themselves unhinged, Martha Stewart adjacent. Monica is a previous corporate America warrior turned mom and voice in the cannabis and consumer advocacy world. Brittany is an artist, business owner, mother and mental health advocate. Now here are your hosts, the Cali Sober Moms.

 

Monica Olano [00:00:25]:

Welcome back to Cali Sober Mom. We have Shelby, the founder of Betty Bloom with us today. She is also the manager, marketing director, marketing director for Happy Days and is based out of New York, which I'm really excited to dive into because I cover the Deep south in Louisiana. Brittany kind of keeps us up with what's going on in the Midwest. And so I'm excited as a mom, a woman, a former hospitality girl, just everything you're doing. But out of New York, inform us.

 

Shelby [00:01:00]:

Thank you so much for having me. Hello from New York. Hello.

 

Britney Brown [00:01:05]:

I'm waiting for Iowa. Hello. Welcome.

 

Shelby [00:01:08]:

Iowa. That's exotic.

 

Monica Olano [00:01:10]:

That is exotic, let me tell you.

 

Monica Olano [00:01:14]:

Oh yes, the Des Moines river that runs right through Florida fauna.

 

Britney Brown [00:01:19]:

It's a wild ride. Here, let me just.

 

Shelby [00:01:21]:

Yeah, I thought we were crazy with the Empire State Building, but no.

 

Monica Olano [00:01:25]:

Have you never been to the principal building?

 

Shelby [00:01:29]:

Goodall ya good time stand bath woman.

 

Monica Olano [00:01:31]:

You probably don't know this about us. Only the deep listeners that are like regulars that have heard every episode probably remember Britney and I were randomly assigned locker partners in high school, that we never really knew each other because we came from this massive school and just our last names were similar. Our school is like 2500 students and we live different lives. Like she was very much show choir, theater, art. I was very much sports. Do as little as possible to not go to school but stay under the radar. So we just never overlapped. And then when this all kick started with me, somehow she popped up in my Facebook feed.

 

Monica Olano [00:02:10]:

I was like, that's cool. I reached out to her, I had her on the thing and now we're business partners in Cali Sober mom.

 

Britney Brown [00:02:15]:

So.

 

Shelby [00:02:16]:

Oh my gosh, I love that. I love how the plant has like turned all of these like roads into very convergent roads. Like there's just so many. I'm crossing paths with so many people from life that it's like, oh, you just like smoking weed. That's cool. Me too. Good to run.

 

Britney Brown [00:02:33]:

It's wild how different types of human can be supported by a plant that we very much are still learning so much about. And it's incredible. I can't wait to hear more about what you do. So tell us what is happening in New York? I've never been, which is wild. I've been to 26 countries and I've never been to New York.

 

Shelby [00:02:50]:

Oh, my God.

 

Monica Olano [00:02:51]:

No one ever believes me.

 

Britney Brown [00:02:52]:

They're like, what?

 

Shelby [00:02:54]:

Yeah, right. I am currently the marketing director at Happy Days Dispensary on Long Island. If you're not familiar with New York, Long island is a little Long island off of the side of Manhattan, and it's very multifaceted culturally. So, like, from town to town, probably like this in a lot of places. But I don't know. Long island feels very exaggerated. Like, town to town is a different vibe altogether. So it's been kind of fun to, like, bring the community together in all of their different multitudes.

 

Britney Brown [00:03:29]:

Disney World, is it a little like Epcot, but in real life, it's like.

 

Shelby [00:03:33]:

Epcot, except, like, if you're from the North Shore, you, like, want nothing to do with people from the South Shore.

 

Britney Brown [00:03:38]:

It's like, exaggerated Epcot, but with weed.

 

Shelby [00:03:41]:

In New Orleans, like, I live in old Metairie.

 

Monica Olano [00:03:44]:

I am half a mile from the line between parishes of Orleans. We don't have counties because we're in Louisiana, and we like to have uniqueness, so we have parishes, but half a mile from, like, the Orleans parish line. And it's a world of difference. It's like you went into just, like, conservative land, but you cross over half a mile, and it's just weird. So, yeah, I totally get that. Like, you have. You live in your neighborhood and you have, like, your group and your people, and you're this. But you go five minutes over, and it's like, oh, but that's that world.

 

Monica Olano [00:04:18]:

And they do that over there, and they focus on the.

 

Shelby [00:04:20]:

I don't know.

 

Monica Olano [00:04:20]:

It's just amazing to me.

 

Shelby [00:04:22]:

Yeah, it's like that in New York right now. Like, really, it's a big state, and there's so many, like, different versions of what New York is. And then you have, like, the brands that are just, like, exhausted people driving all over the place, trying to relate to everyone. So it's a pretty cool scene right here, I think, Pop in. I feel like it's gotten a bad reputation. Like, there were some hiccups. There still are some hiccups as far as, like, you know, rollout and regulatory issues. But, I mean, culturally, which is really what I kind of care about.

 

Shelby [00:04:52]:

It's a scene. It's really cool. It's very exciting.

 

Monica Olano [00:04:55]:

I have a question on that, because not being from New York and just, you know, following what I follow on LinkedIn or what you hear in the news. You would think that New York City has, like, unregulated corner shops everywhere and that they're ruining things for all the people doing things correctly and that products being sold in those places.

 

Shelby [00:05:18]:

Yeah, it's okay. Yeah, we can use, like, Camino and, like, the Kiva brands as an example. Like, you can buy California kiva gummies anywhere, like, at any bodega. It's just available. Like, a lot of California brands are available. I feel like there's two different versions of the market existing. Well, more than two, really. Right.

 

Shelby [00:05:40]:

Because there's, like, the illicit market, which is very strong. It always has been. New York was moving, you know, a metric ton of weed every year. So, like, there was a real market beforehand. And then there's the kind of new guard, which is where I feel like I kind of come into play, which is people that are looking to do things really differently from a business perspective and maybe grow in a more cooperative way and focus on maybe a rising tide and a better tomorrow and sustainability. And then there's that, like, middle piece, which is. I'm not going to say men, because I'm not going to be, like, a hater like that, but I will say, like, more patriarchal, traditional business practices where people are just looking to get rich on their own. So there's kind of like the three versions of the.

 

Shelby [00:06:31]:

Of the industry going on right now. I like to kind of dabble in all of them because it's important to know, first of all, you have to just be able to play the game. Right.

 

Monica Olano [00:06:41]:

100% have to.

 

Britney Brown [00:06:43]:

If you cannot relate to every side, including those you loathe, you're going to fuck it up.

 

Shelby [00:06:49]:

You are.

 

Britney Brown [00:06:49]:

And that is a very real situation for everybody right now. That's in marketing. I don't care if it is in a retail space, like I am in the cannabis space, like you are in a human sense, like Monica is while she's relating on Capitol Hill to different types of people. But if you can't communicate and see the side from which the other people are coming, you are going to fail. Because our country right now is way too divided for that.

 

Shelby [00:07:16]:

I reject the concept of black and whiteness of everything. Right. There's like this binary tendency for everything.

 

Monica Olano [00:07:23]:

It's like, well, if you feel this.

 

Shelby [00:07:24]:

Way, can't feel that way at all. And it's like, that's not how we are as human people.

 

Monica Olano [00:07:29]:

Yeah, not how we are. So, you know, I obviously find myself.

 

Shelby [00:07:33]:

In that middle category, like, drawn to the business thing because frankly, like I'm a mom and I have a 14 year old daughter and she's going to college and I need to pay for it. Great. So I can't just be like, no, let's co op everything and like I don't need to make money. This is just not true. So kind of need to play in that space. And then the illicit market is really where culture lived and has always lived. So, you know, I like to draw my inspiration from there. I love the relationships there.

 

Shelby [00:07:59]:

There are a lot of people that are crossing over from there. So, you know, I feel lucky to kind of, because I came from running legacy events. I like that I can kind of like be a part of all of it. But I am like gung ho on that rising tide side where there are some really amazing people, specifically amazing women, I'm going to say, that are like just doing the things. And so there are a few dozen women in New York state that are kind of just like making things happen.

 

Britney Brown [00:08:30]:

And I love when there's a few dozen women anywhere doing some shit.

 

Shelby [00:08:34]:

I love when women work together, when women, period. I love women.

 

Monica Olano [00:08:39]:

What I want to talk to you about that because I did. I put a piece out there yesterday that I knew was going to ruffle a few feathers because there was a major court advertisement that happened over this past weekend. And to me, here's, here's how I break it down. Right now, women are leading the growth in the cannabis sector, not just by what we're doing to grow it as humans that have decided to get involved in it, but people who are buying the product, putting the money to make something grow is women. And Green State reported 70 to 80% of discretional income or spending in the United States is by women. And so when the biggest activation for the hemp drink space, which we all know hemp beverages are popping off, was gloating about sponsoring Jake Paul and Mike Tyson's after party, where on social media they advertise to women, they use women influencers, they do all of that. But then four men who own the company go and sponsor and gloat about two sponsoring two dudes that are full of sexual assault accusations, some conviction, what they're teaching children, what they're showing children. Why do we keep doing that? Like, why do we keep buying from men that want to do nothing to help us? So I don't really answer, but I just want to put that out there to get some opinions.

 

Shelby [00:10:13]:

It couldn't be truer that we know these facts and then we still submit to them because that's just the way it is. And I think that we are, like, programmed as a society to just, like, continue with things the way they've always been and also make excuses for poor behavior because that's how business happens. And, you know, you don't want to ruffle feathers. I run into the same issue. We carry the Tyson brand at the dispensary, and I keep the display pushed back in the corner of the showcase. And they asked to move it up and I said no, like, this is what I can do. I can't. I'm not the purchasing manager.

 

Shelby [00:10:49]:

I don't make the decision to not carry the product. And also, like, there's an audience for that. I just kind of feel like there are so many lanes out there. We're not going to eliminate masochistic behavior. You can reduce the world, we can reduce it, right? Like, I just don't opt in. Like, I don't watch fights. I don't. I don't watch movies about war.

 

Shelby [00:11:13]:

Like, I just don't do the things that don't align with me. And, like, and I'm pretty vocal about it. Like, I'm very vocal about it. My husband keeps saying, like, where are you gonna leave me for a woman? And I'm like, I'm not gonna leave you one woman. I'm just trying to be pro woman here. Like, speak out.

 

Monica Olano [00:11:28]:

And it's funny you say that because whenever I say anything that's very. Because I am in a position where I can basically say whatever I want because I'm not financially dependent on any of these dudes buying my product. Or if I say something, they can blacklist me and never hire me. And so the amount of messages I get from women when I say these things that are like, oh my gosh, thank you. Every time I even allude to it, I get attacked or I've been blacklisted from job. But then I'll say these things and people will call me and be like, your husband? Like, what does he think? I'm like, why the fuck does it matter? Can we talk about though?

 

Britney Brown [00:12:03]:

Nobody ever asked me that. And I live in Iowa. It's because you live in the south that it is so much more perpetuated. And my sister in law who does all of our copy, she's like my marketing lead for the most part for my company. The amount of things, her emotional turmoil and struggle that she has, especially over the last few weeks, struggled with has been wild to watch. It's so that has hurt and been harder for me to watch than any of my own experiences in this. Because I know just by nature of the people that she doesn't have a choice. She has to surround herself with other than her very closest circle.

 

Britney Brown [00:12:41]:

She's having to navigate this in real life. She can't completely cut off all of these, you know, people that do not have alignment with her. But at the same time, she's trying to uphold those ideals and hold that strong for her own daughters and, you know, do all. I'm like, I don't know how you're doing this, because that is hard. At least I know in my spaces it is rare that I encounter anybody that I don't immediately put myself in front of that I don't already know where they stand on most things that I agree with. And it doesn't mean everything's exactly the same, but for the most part, we're aligning pretty similarly. But imagine living in a place where, like, Monica lives, she's in New Orleans. And there are various viewpoints on how things are done, how things are meant to be.

 

Britney Brown [00:13:26]:

And that is the overarching, pervasive feeling that I get out of the South. Not that they give a shit, but there's a way things are done. And that is hard to. That is hard to combat that.

 

Shelby [00:13:38]:

Yeah.

 

Monica Olano [00:13:39]:

Is this not in New York or do you just get to do your own damn.

 

Britney Brown [00:13:43]:

Do whatever?

 

Shelby [00:13:43]:

Well, I do my own thing. And I thought that I was, like, normal. Like, I thought I was like, oh, everybody's like, me, like just a hippie.

 

Monica Olano [00:13:51]:

That just wants to love.

 

Shelby [00:13:52]:

And like, I don't think it turns out I was way off. And, like, I've grown up. My closest friends didn't feel the same as me. I'm a Girl Scout leader. I heard a couple of my Girl Scouts saying really negative things back Amala. And I was like, what? What is going on right here? Like, where did we come to a place in the world where we have to so aggressively knock someone down that we can't celebrate the fact that, like, a woman is running for president? And not only that, like, kind of awesome woman, right? Like a non controversial, lovely person. And like, that my Girl Scouts, that I've been empowering these girls since they were in kindergarten and they're in high school now, that somehow along the line they, like, lost this. Like, we empower each other and we build each other up.

 

Shelby [00:14:36]:

Like, where did that theme get lost? And I do think that, like, a lot of it relies on people in our age group, right? We were Raised to say that like women are equal. And we just like retorted that. But I was saying to my daughter the other day, like, we were raised to see that, but then at the same time a man was putting their hand on our leg. Yeah, right. You were like, well, that's just the way it is. So, you know, it's like we said all these things, we say progress is happening, but it's not really happening. And I think that this time, right now is like just an extraordinary time because it's clear now. Right.

 

Shelby [00:15:11]:

It's real. It's really happening. There are really people that are threatened by women finding their power and owning their voice. And I say like, challenge accepted. Like now we know right now to like stay in our lane. Like, that's what I'm doing. I'm staying in my lane. If I find people that don't align with me, I will continue to the trend.

 

Shelby [00:15:31]:

I will. There will be transactional relationships for me.

 

Monica Olano [00:15:34]:

Yeah.

 

Shelby [00:15:36]:

How are we working together in a business sense? And then on the community side, which is the thing that really moves the needle and matters, especially in marketing right now, then I find my people and I align with them and that's the people that I'm actually doing the work with. So, you know, that's really fair.

 

Britney Brown [00:15:51]:

You get outlook and it handles things delicately and also in a way that allows you to still maneuver the best way you can for business and personal and professional growth while still respecting what you do believe and what you're trying to perpetuate. And I think that that's an area all of us are going to have to work on in growing.

 

Shelby [00:16:13]:

And yeah, we also have to fact that we're not going to be working with everyone.

 

Britney Brown [00:16:17]:

Nope.

 

Shelby [00:16:18]:

Like I. I broke off a relationship with someone that I was doing some work with and it was a great opportunity and it was in my town, it was, you know, locally moving the needle on cannabis, which is all I really want to do is just normalize. We were so not aligned and I was so not welcomed into his energetic field because I worked, man. Like, this is not, this is not the energy that is going to serve me or you, frankly. So you keep doing your thing and we'll just do our work without you and we'll figure it out together. I love that.

 

Monica Olano [00:16:50]:

And before I dive in to ask you about the community, because I think both of you are dead on. Britney's doing a lot of things with community too. So I really want to hear what you're doing because I want to bring both of you this out But I just, I think you guys will find this little humor. When I was pregnant with my first daughter and we found out the SEC and I did not want girls, I was petrified to have girls. Did not think I would be a good girl mom, whatever. But so when we told the first person, they could see the look on my face. He's older, he's about mid-70s. And he looked at me and he said, it's okay, Monica.

 

Monica Olano [00:17:28]:

Women can do almost anything. Now that was a real pause. I'm like, well, that wasn't why I'm sad, because I'm petrified to be a girl mom. But what do you mean almost? I'm going to burn the world to the ground now. But so speaking of community and women, tell me what you're doing, because I see some things and I see what Britney's doing. I'm like, man, there's something like that that needs to be down here. So tell me about the community you're building with Betty Bloom and in New York and especially how you're tying that into marketing. Because I think a lot of people need to really clue into that.

 

Shelby [00:18:02]:

Yeah, I mean, the marketing and economist space, it leaves much to be desired. And just being a good marketer and entering the space, you can really set yourself apart by just like knowing what you're doing, which is the bar is super low, which is great for the.

 

Britney Brown [00:18:18]:

Ego on the ground.

 

Shelby [00:18:20]:

It's not great. Token. I know people like, it's amazing what you're doing. And I'm like, you're being the bare minimum.

 

Monica Olano [00:18:28]:

It's going so good in most industries. This is advanced, but I understand this is a brand new industry. So cool. Look at maintenance.

 

Britney Brown [00:18:36]:

It's not, it's new. Like, there's no.

 

Monica Olano [00:18:40]:

It's not.

 

Britney Brown [00:18:40]:

It's. There's no standards, there's no operating practices. There's nothing. It just doesn't exist.

 

Shelby [00:18:44]:

Sure. But like, also, it's not the first industry ever.

 

Britney Brown [00:18:48]:

It's weird that it's this bad.

 

Shelby [00:18:49]:

Like, right? People are like, oh, weed, how do we do it? And I'm like, with industry? Um, yeah. So I founded Betty Bloom after starting a pretty large music festival. Um, I started a 420 festival at a brewery that I was working at. It scaled pretty big. Uh, it was built as a co op event. So I kind of worked with community partners and gave them different spaces in the floor plan. And so everybody executed together. And it was, this was its fourth year.

 

Shelby [00:19:20]:

Shaggy was the headliner this year. So I found this intersection of beer and cannabis and how beautiful the community was. And it occurred to me that cannabis is not an industry. It touches everything. Right. It's style choice. So I started realizing that there were a lot of potential partners in kind of the mainstream world that could be engaging with cannabis users. So I started Betty Bloom to provide educational opportunities for predominantly women to learn about cannabis, but applied to the brands that are available legally in the market.

 

Shelby [00:19:58]:

So instead of just learning about gummies, you're learning about Eaton Botanicals, which is a God meat company in upstate New York that has adaptogenic mushrooms and is very Cajun specific. Instead of.

 

Monica Olano [00:20:12]:

I want those now. Sorry. I want those now.

 

Shelby [00:20:15]:

They do a gal pal gummy. And it. Yeah, it works. It's great. It's my favorite gummy. It, like, makes me not want to ever have menopause because I want to keep using it.

 

Monica Olano [00:20:27]:

Okay, we will touch on that and link in the notes after.

 

Shelby [00:20:30]:

Yeah, yeah, definitely. So I work with a lot of different brands and I have parties. I do things that are small, like a book club size party where you just get your girlfriends. Bless.

 

Monica Olano [00:20:43]:

Great, girl.

 

Britney Brown [00:20:44]:

Thank you.

 

Shelby [00:20:45]:

I'm over. And then it scales to, like a loyalty engagement event for the dispensary, and it scales up to a consumption area at a music festival, which we did this summer. The idea is that we just work directly with brands. We introduce people to what's available in the market, and we let them ask questions and also have fun. Because we forget to have fun.

 

Britney Brown [00:21:10]:

Yep.

 

Monica Olano [00:21:11]:

Uncle, we're starting this episode. Before we hit record, I looked at Brittany and Shelby. I was like, y'all, I just want to have fun.

 

Shelby [00:21:19]:

We wing it.

 

Monica Olano [00:21:20]:

Let's just have fun. So the fact that you're bringing that to communities of women and something that they might not know much about yet or someone, I still know very little. I've been in this for months and I've been trying to learn in the amount of misinformation and what people want to throw at you and why their brand's best. And I'm just like, you discombobulated. So doing that in a safe space for women is huge.

 

Shelby [00:21:42]:

Yeah, it happens at the dispensary all the time. People will come in and be like, this is my first time in. I just want to sleep. And we're like, you know, oh, you have an endocannabinoid system. And, like, you can try cbn. And they're like, I just want a sleep gummy. Like, we're sleep gummies. So, like, learning to simplify.

 

Shelby [00:22:02]:

I think that, like, all of us together you know, I do think there's opportunity for us to be working together to create that cohesive messaging. It's lacking. You know, you mentioned the hemp beverage market. There's no like communication between the hemp side and the cannabis side and the state regulated stuff and stuff can get shipped to your house. And all of that really boils down to a very confused consumer. It's a barrier to entry. Right. So like, we can't really grow the space until we kind of land on how we're going to message everything together.

 

Britney Brown [00:22:32]:

I really think this is what Monica has been aiming to do with Cali. Sober mom more so than anything. And she does it better than anybody else I've ever seen. That's why I chose to go into business with her because she is so relatable to people who currently don't have access to that. And I say that from a standpoint of I know people like that look like Monica but think like me. And I think that that is very complicated for them because what we talked about earlier, this man's world, patriarchy bullshit, it's harder to access the type of information that makes you an informed consumer. And I think that that's what makes it very hard and why Monica is fucking incredible in this space because she looks like the rich ass mom down the street who happens to also know things about cannabis. And I think that's what makes it.

 

Britney Brown [00:23:23]:

But you laugh. That is the reality of marketing. It's wild because people won't listen to me because I look like I eat granola and I probably have a paint studio in my basement.

 

Shelby [00:23:34]:

Well, I do.

 

Britney Brown [00:23:35]:

This is true. But also there is a. There's a barrier to entry in all marketing scenarios. And you happen to meet one of the very interesting ones. People like Shelby and I are the loudmouths that are supposed to look like they're dating women and doing things. Look at all the things behind Shelby.

 

Shelby [00:23:56]:

Look at all the things I have.

 

Britney Brown [00:23:58]:

Vintage Cruel 12 Days of Christmas moment. Monica has the inside of a fucking Pier 1.

 

Shelby [00:24:05]:

Yeah, it's like popping.

 

Monica Olano [00:24:07]:

Because I don't know myself yet. And that's other women is because I got told my whole life small, I was so full of so much ideas and energy and it was constantly like, no, we don't talk about that. No, we don't talk about that. So I learned very quickly, and this is something I'm going through in therapy, is how to walk into any situation, assess it and mingle throughout it and be very successful. And I didn't even know that I was doing that. And so when it comes time to, like, have a background, Britney's. No. She's been with me for the last six months.

 

Monica Olano [00:24:42]:

I cried and this took me six months to do this.

 

Britney Brown [00:24:46]:

Even just to think about doing it with stress.

 

Monica Olano [00:24:48]:

I feel like I have to match an image because I don't have an image of myself yet. And there's so many women out there that are trying to find themselves, and they don't know that they can be themselves.

 

Shelby [00:25:01]:

Right.

 

Monica Olano [00:25:01]:

They don't know that you, like, you.

 

Shelby [00:25:04]:

Know who you are. You just have this notion that people are going to accept you for who you are, that they're judging you for who you are. I think the magical thing about this plant is that it does kind of, like, expose your true self, and it encourages just organic, natural connection with people. And, like, you know, I tell my daughter all the time, you can want to be friends with a group of people, but the friends that are going.

 

Britney Brown [00:25:29]:

To mean the most to you are.

 

Shelby [00:25:30]:

The people that are just natural connections. And I think that, like, the magic happens when you stop caring what people think of you in the first place and just focus on, like, what can be natural connection. And that's what the plan. It really does do that.

 

Monica Olano [00:25:43]:

Right.

 

Shelby [00:25:43]:

Like, I'm at a point right now where I socialize. If I'm, like, not engaged in a conversation, I just, like, leave. And sometimes I was at an. I want to go home. I just want to go home. And I. And I left, and I was like, oh, you get to. You get to choose your own adventure in this life.

 

Shelby [00:26:00]:

There's no obligation. No one's staring at your every move. Like, if they are, then, like, back with them. Problem. Stop me.

 

Monica Olano [00:26:09]:

Yes.

 

Shelby [00:26:10]:

Great. Like, why am I poster on your wall?

 

Monica Olano [00:26:16]:

Oh, my God. I could seriously talk to you all day.

 

Shelby [00:26:20]:

All day.

 

Monica Olano [00:26:21]:

I. You are an inspiration for someone just, like, coming into this space and coming. Even though, like, yes, I had a successful life before, it's not like I'm trying to downplay that. Like, I didn't have this life before, but it's like coming into my own and acknowledging things and wanting to set a new standard for my daughters and other women in my neighborhood. And I just want to tell you thank you for being someone that has already started in leading the path in that and everything that you're doing. Thank you.

 

Shelby [00:26:56]:

Thank you. I mean, I think that you're, like, downplaying the impact that you have. Like, I think that you've found the space. I've found at least that we are Not. This is not a judgmental scene. This is kind of like a. Oh, you smoke weed.

 

Monica Olano [00:27:10]:

That's cool.

 

Shelby [00:27:11]:

Like, I also feel uncomfortable in social situations and weed make me feel better. Like, oh, I also have a super stressful life and I'm looking for an out. Or like, yeah, you know, found a place that I think just lets you come as you are. And, you know, you should keep doing what you're doing. You don't have to worry.

 

Monica Olano [00:27:30]:

Thank you. And to the listener out there, do what's in your heart, as scary as it is. Like, this just didn't happen overnight. It was a little piece here and a little piece there. And I think you will be surprised as you let the little pieces of yourself out, how many more people are going to gravitate towards you and be like, oh, my gosh, thank you. I feel that way too.

 

Shelby [00:27:49]:

So, yeah, you're solid in knowing that you're not alone. So I cried on my Instagram the other day because somebody called me a see you next Tuesday, and I got dead.

 

Monica Olano [00:28:03]:

So I challenged you next to the algorithm. They boosted the algorithm.

 

Shelby [00:28:08]:

I'm making merch. I don't even care anymore. I don't care anymore. That's like, no more fucks are given or relatives on your exit.

 

Britney Brown [00:28:15]:

You can come more of it.

 

Shelby [00:28:17]:

Well, I think we'll leave it on.

 

Monica Olano [00:28:18]:

No more fucks are given.

 

Shelby [00:28:20]:

And we will link.

 

Monica Olano [00:28:22]:

Betty Bloom will link. Happy days. I'm going to get the link for you for that gal thing. Put all of that in there. But if you have any questions for myself, for Shelby, for Brittany, just send us a message. We are all open books and we look forward to having you for our next episode.

 

Shelby [00:28:39]:

Amazing.

 

Monica Olano [00:28:40]:

Have a great day.

 

Monica Olano [00:28:42]:

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