Discover how cannabis can transform lives and build authentic communities with guest Elizabeth Sage, a certified Ganjier and disruptor in the space. Gain insights into navigating stigma, finding the right resources, and exploring the powerful connections that cannabis fosters—whether you’re just curious or looking to deepen your journey.
In this episode, Monica and Brittany sit down with Elizabeth Sage, a certified Ganjier, community builder, and advocate for authenticity in the cannabis space. Elizabeth shares her journey from corporate life to cannabis education and discusses how stigma, misinformation, and the unique challenges faced by women in the industry drive her work. Together, they explore the power of community, the importance of authenticity, and the evolving narrative around cannabis use.
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Monica Olano [00:00:03]:
Welcome to the Cali Sober mom podcast. Monica and Brittany are changing the conversation about motherhood, cannabis and mental health, considering themselves unhinged, Martha Stewart adjacent. Monica is a previous corporate America warrior turned mom and voice in the cannabis and consumer advocacy world. Brittany is an artist, business owner, mother, and mental health advocate. Now here are your hosts, the Cali Sober Moms.
Britney Brown [00:00:29]:
Hi, everybody. Welcome back to Cali Sober Mom. We have Monica here and my co host, Brittany. And today we are super excited to welcome Elizabeth, a certified gang community integrator and a geriatric toddler mom. Might be my favorite way you've ever described yourself.
Elizabeth Sage [00:00:47]:
That's incredible.
Britney Brown [00:00:48]:
She is inspiration and who I kind of want to be when I grow up. She has a lot of those traits, but she's really skilled in building community and bringing her corporate background in. And I feel like that is a perfect mesh of what and who Brittany and I are. So we are so excited to have you.
Elizabeth Sage [00:01:08]:
Thank you. I'm excited to be with you.
Britney Brown [00:01:10]:
Thanks. Would you like to tell us a little bit about where you're from and how you got into this?
Elizabeth Sage [00:01:21]:
Sure. I'm coming to you live from my community center. We did a little. A little prep and a rundown on how, you know, how important community is in a lot of different aspects. So as somebody who builds a lot of community, having a community like this that supports me and I have childcare downstairs has been really, really helpful. I grew up in northern Minnesota and I spent about five years down here in Minneapolis before spending 15 years in Chicago working for a private investment company. And I have been a cannabis user since I was 15 and always knew that I liked the way that it made me felt, that I never understood why and how. And largely, you know, throughout my whole corporate life, it had never been something that I was able to mesh into it.
Elizabeth Sage [00:02:03]:
It had always been something that I did, but did sort of on the side and lived a very different nine to five life. It's very, you know, night life driven, very alcohol driven. And then, you know, when I had kids, I was able to pull back from that a little bit. And we decided in 2018 to move back to Minnesota where we had a little bit more family support. It was closer to be by my parents and my husband's parents. And as soon as I moved, Illinois legalized by executive order, so it wasn't even in my radar. And we moved. And I was like, well, now.
Elizabeth Sage [00:02:36]:
Now we just moved our whole family, so we're probably not going back. And how can I get involved where I am Now. And So that was 2018, and I started doing some cannabis tourism. I looked at maybe becoming a dispensary owner or doing cultiv, and that lasted for a few years. Then Covid hit. And at the very beginning of COVID I came across a program online to become a cannabis sommelier. And everything about it just kind of spoke to me because it had this entire breadth of experience that you would get. It had an in person live element where you got to visit a farm, you got to learn how to assess it properly, you got to meet with all of these different people that have had this long legacy in cannabis, right? Because while it's been federally illegal for quite some time, it has still thrived in Northern California and other parts of the world.
Elizabeth Sage [00:03:25]:
And they've really kept the legacy alive. So going up there and getting to hear the stories of the people who went back to the land from the 60s in San Francisco and have built these families to hear about the raids that they went through during the 80s and the 90s, and the families that have been torn apart and that are really just getting rebuilt in this day and age. And now they've gone into the legal market and that's, you know, largely been decimated in California. It's heartbreaking in a lot of ways, but the stories of resilience up there are so beautiful. So I went up there for that live training, got immersed in all of that, got to soak in all this knowledge, went back a couple months later, got a certification, and, you know, there's a really special feeling up there. And I'm. I'm a spiritual person and I understand like the energy and the earth and when you go up there, you just, you feel something very, very different. And it resonates.
Elizabeth Sage [00:04:18]:
And I wanted more of that feeling and I wanted to be able to have the connection to the people who were invested in cultivating that and people who are invested in taking this plant that's been demonized for so long and moving it forward into the world in a very normal way, not a scary way, but like in a very well versed, well thought out way. And so born out of that program was a subscription based community that I host now. And so it's open to people who are certified gangier or are studying to become Ganga. And we meet three times a week, we do amazing deep dives into different areas of the industry, different technology, different cultivators. And really it's a little bit of therapy. It's a lot of helping people out, listening to their stories. And I think that's what's, you know, my favorite part about cannabis is everybody has a story of how they got there. And a lot of times there are people, they don't, there's people in cannabis that don't use cannabis, but they, it saved their grandparent or their uncle or they have seen what it can do topically.
Elizabeth Sage [00:05:21]:
And even, you know, I have people who, in my DMs, it's so funny on all of my Instagram stories go to Facebook. And so I have people who are reaching out from high school that I haven't Talked to from 25 years ago. I had a woman that I went to Bible camp with reach out to me a week ago and ask me like, my friend's husband died and he was growing weed and she doesn't know what to do with it. Can you help me? And another woman who was like, I want to give my dog cbd, I think, like, what do I do? I don't know anything. So there's a huge desire for the knowledge to be brought to that mainstream level. And in my community, we have people coming from all these different spectrums of the industry and they're coming together and they're talking about it and they're sharing about it and they're building a network of informed individuals who can then go out into their respective areas and start spreading that knowledge and making a little more normal and easy for people.
Britney Brown [00:06:17]:
I fell in love with you.
Elizabeth [00:06:19]:
Sweet Jesus, can we get married? I mean, I already am, but she burns.
Elizabeth Sage [00:06:24]:
Well between your, my, you know, like your five, your three and my three, like I think a sister wives type.
Elizabeth [00:06:30]:
Situation, there could be an entire farm of these youths and well regulated mothers is all I'm. That would be fantastic. So a huge thing that I'm already immediately drawn to. I can tell you are borderline one of the most authentic people I've ever met. And I've approximately known you for 13 seconds at this point. So let's be real about that. But when we were talking right before we started the show, you had said something about authenticity and collaboration and I want you to expand on what that means to you in the cannabis space because I have really strong opinions about what that means in the neurodivergent space. We spoke a little bit about this, but I'm a late diagnosed ADHD and autistic human.
Elizabeth [00:07:11]:
That in and of itself doesn't really do much. That diagnosis outside of medication management pretty much actually means nothing for me other than that I, my life insurance policy is way more expensive now that's pretty much all that it means. Outside of that, though, I have found that by collaborating with others who may or may not have a diagnosis, it doesn't fucking matter. But it's the exact same in the cannabis space, too. It doesn't matter if you're using it. It doesn't matter if it, you know, it doesn't matter. What matters is the knowledge. What matters is the community, and what matters is the support.
Elizabeth [00:07:43]:
So I want you to talk about what you have seen from an authenticity standpoint with everyday people that have figured out gangier is the route for them to go, that that is what they want to use to support the industry, to grow and to improve, and to do all of these things. So tell me a little more about your work as a disruptor and how that plays into things.
Elizabeth Sage [00:08:05]:
Well, so I think it's. Everybody just wants to be seen and heard, and I am included wholeheartedly in. In that demographic. And so finding a place where people can come and show up in a way that suits them, because not everybody can show up and do a podcast. Not everybody can show up and, you know, hold a. Hold a picket sign or table at an event or. There's so many different ways that people are able to show up. And some people want to show up louder than others.
Elizabeth Sage [00:08:35]:
And so being able to hold space for all of those different things, I think is what's important to me, because I've been someone at times who wants to be the leader of the crowd, and I've been someone who wants to sit on the zoom camera, off just absorbing the information and not be seen at all. And everybody comes to things at different times at different places. I think there's a lot of people who, you know, join our sessions every week from their jobs, where their jobs don't know what they're doing. Because when I first started my sessions, I had a job, and they didn't know what I was doing. Right. So it's, you know, and I try to remember that I don't know why they're doing what they're doing, too. Right? And they're. Everybody's just doing their best.
Elizabeth Sage [00:09:19]:
I keep that at the forefront of all of my thoughts. And people show up how they need to for themselves, and you will show up for people how they need it. And that's sort of that energetic connection that draws some people together. And I think that's why, again, we have people from so many different facets of the industry that just have the same resonance. And so regardless of their socioeconomic status, regardless of their political status, regardless of the color of their skin. They're just all vibrating at the same frequency. They want the same things in the world. They want to be able to be a part of what they see as a change that is happening in people.
Elizabeth Sage [00:10:01]:
And they know that they can, but they also need to feel empowered to do that because we're not really taught to like, be out on our own. We were just talking about like feeling weird. Nobody wants to feel weird. Nobody wants to be the weird kid. And you know, there's even rooms and places that I go in still that I realize, like, I'm the only cannabis person here. Like, everyone looks at me and they're like, oh no, she's the pothead. And you know, like, that couldn't be further from the truth. But that's not like, that's not up for me to change that for them, right? Like, that's the lens of them coming through to me.
Elizabeth Sage [00:10:37]:
And I can only just show up how I am, hope that they see me. And if they don't realize like that I, you know, you can only, I think we said this the other day, Monica, like, you can only meet someone as far as they've met themselves. And like, I can be cool with, you're not there yet. And that's okay. That's not about me.
Britney Brown [00:10:54]:
That's a skill though, I will say in this therapeutic, life changing, spiritual journey that I am on right now, if anyone starts from the beginning and listens to this one, you will hear me grow. I just decided to grow out loud. But that is one of the biggest skills that I've had to learn, is that I can only meet people where they're at. And by doing that, it's beautiful in a way. Sometimes it's frustrating because you want to shake someone, of course, and say, but why don't you see this? But their life experiences aren't what yours are. The mainstream media that they saw in their house growing up isn't what ours are. Their vices that they use to calm their brains aren't what we are. So we're all seeing the world from this different perspective.
Britney Brown [00:11:42]:
And although you may think you're further along or seen further along, you just, you just keep leading by example. And when you meet them there, instead of combating them, which I think the world sets us up to do, is if we're not the same, then we're bitter enemies, right? And it's easier for apart. But if you just meet them where they're at, that's not compromising who you are, it's not changing who you are, but you're just meeting them and you can have a discussion. You may learn something, you may not, but they may learn something. And I just think that's so beautiful because there's. You both are doing that. You both are creating communities where people can come in as who they are, meet other people where they are, and then grow from there. And outside of you guys, I just don't see a lot of that in the world.
Elizabeth [00:12:28]:
It's a new. It's a new realm.
Elizabeth Sage [00:12:31]:
It's a new realm.
Elizabeth [00:12:32]:
We're working on it. Okay, so I want to read my Facebook post to you that I made yesterday because it's a little weird. It's a little weird, Elizabeth.
Britney Brown [00:12:41]:
Not if you're spiritual. Things happen for a reason lately, ma'am.
Elizabeth [00:12:45]:
They sure do. Everything changed when I realized it was none of my business what other people thought about me. None. At the end of the day, it's not their fault. They didn't know my intentions. I likely wasn't clear enough. And it's also not my responsibility to stress about how I'm perceived. If I'm truly doing the best I can, be kind, do good, move on.
Elizabeth [00:13:03]:
Love.
Elizabeth Sage [00:13:04]:
Love that. A real, real quick summary because it.
Elizabeth [00:13:07]:
Is so much the same things, like it's all of the same things. And I think that it's so valid that you're doing it in a slightly different space that has this overlap piece because the amount of people I've talked to and about with cannabis that are also neurodivergent, adjacent in some way, typically are feeling othered or alienated. Or the weird one, like why what? Why would I choose to treat a brain differentiation and disorder? To live in the world we live in today using a tool that works for me. And if you thinking about it as anything other than a tool, then you're probably needing to do more research because at the end of the day, any medicine we take in any way, shape or form is a tool that is exactly what it is. There's no two ways about it. And I think that it does bring people together in a very different way because it offers a different option for so many groups of humans. Whether that is pain sufferer, whether that is neurological differences, whether that is a biological differences, whether that is emotional health, mental health. There's so many pieces.
Elizabeth [00:14:14]:
I also have chronic shingles. Guess what? The only thing that has ever, ever cleared that up. Ben, I bet you don't need two guesses.
Elizabeth Sage [00:14:22]:
I like and I'm. And I'M like, is it full spectrum? Like what? Like. Cause I'm always really curious is that, you know, a lot of times those single molecule isolates, depending on how you take them, don't necessarily do the job for something like shingles. So I'm always topical.
Britney Brown [00:14:36]:
Topical.
Elizabeth [00:14:37]:
For mine it was topical. It was a tropical resin based.
Elizabeth Sage [00:14:43]:
Not.
Elizabeth [00:14:44]:
Tincture, but it was like a salve or whatever. But because it had open. Because it like it has open pustules, it doesn't keep it away, but it immediately can soak in and affect the virus that's present. So which is very interesting and it's very neurological.
Elizabeth Sage [00:15:02]:
I was going to say there are some minor cannabinoids like CBC that have antiviral properties. And so, you know, that's one of those things for me at least people don't realize. People think of cannabis as an intoxicating plant and it couldn't be. No. And you couldn't be further from the truth. Like it's one tiny molecule that we get really, really worked up over. And then you have this like, like endless list of other things you can do with the plant that are so beneficial.
Elizabeth [00:15:32]:
I think that was one that was really interesting for me the first time I gave somebody this. So I had been in Colorado, I was shooting a wedding and I had jingles and I just literally went to. It was the very first dispensary I had ever walked into. And odd that it took severe pain for me to walk into one and finally be like, nope, I gotta go, I gotta have somebody help me with this. And I spoke to my budtender about what was going on, the duration of time, what they usually were, like, whatever. And he gave me three options and three different price points that had different things. And he explained why each one might be a better fit and that at the end of the day, as long as, you know, I try it, if it doesn't work, bring it back, we'll talk about it, we'll see what we can do. There's things to be done.
Elizabeth [00:16:14]:
Because it was a medical situation, even though I didn't have a medical license, he was able to offer different options. So it was then. This was many, many, many years ago. So Colorado is the only place really even doing that outside of California. And that was pretty much it. And that is the very first thing that changed it for me. In thinking about it, I had very much used cannabis, but always recreationally, never medicinally. And now I use it for my brain medicinally.
Elizabeth [00:16:39]:
But it's a different realm of things.
Britney Brown [00:16:43]:
As We've all said a lot of people fall into this. They never thought they would be here. They never thought they would dip their toe. That's the majority of women and audience I speak with is people that never thought that they would be here. They always had preconceived notions or even if they didn't have this, like, dire, I'm against it. It wasn't worth even venturing over there, right? That was counterculture. That was something different. And I've had this discussion on other podcasts about I don't even like to walk into a dispensary.
Britney Brown [00:17:13]:
I. I just, I haven't found one that speaks to me that I feel you don't know what you're going to get. So all that being said, let's say naive little Monica from a year ago in Louisiana and in Iowa, too, because there's not as many options, I speak to people in these still very, very restricted spaces, right? Say we want to dip our toe in. We want to start learning. When you go on Google or you ask your friends or Reddit, the amount of misinformation out there is staggering. Where would you even recommend. I know you more work with the community that is educating to build the correct knowledge to then go to the consumer, right? So where's the best, like, middle spot? If you guys are here and you're educating each other and the consumer's here, where are we meeting in the middle? Where. Where do you recommend if they're not ready to walk into a dispensary and they want to start researching on their own?
Elizabeth Sage [00:18:09]:
How do I put this? When I first started in my cannabis business journey and wanting to know more about it, there's a handful of podcasts that I listen to on a somewhat regular basis that I don't know if they still exist because I have evolved past that and there's a few that I know don't still exist that I really, really enjoyed. But I have probably like a dozen episodes of particular podcasts that I have bookmarked because I think they just do a really great job of giving people an overall synopsis of it. I wrote a course called Cannabasics that has five different modules that takes people through sort of what I think is the most important parts of cannabis. I think just even finding the. It's trial and error when it comes to dispensaries, because I have been to so many and I'm a shopper at heart. Like, I'm a consumer product goods girl. I was in, you know, I've had Lots of stints in retail in my life. I was a makeup artist for many years.
Elizabeth Sage [00:19:09]:
I love products and I think that's one of the things that really draws me to cannabis, is there's so many products that they're making all the time. I love flavors, I love packaging. Like, there's just every single part of it speaks to me in a different way. The resources, like I said, I've got sort of my list of things that I would give to people. I think finding the right dispensary is where I was going. It's trial and error, finding a really good budtender and like developing a relationship. I think part of it too is just doing that little bit of education. So you go in with a basis of knowledge and not expecting when you go into a retail setting, them to know exactly how to react.
Elizabeth Sage [00:19:49]:
Because a lot of times people just don't have the training. There's websites like Leafly, I looked at a lot in my early days. Again, because I'm a consumer products person before I ever go into a dispensary, I always look to see what they have online and always, every time, without.
Elizabeth [00:20:05]:
Fail, I can't do it without it.
Elizabeth Sage [00:20:07]:
Got to know what I'm going for.
Britney Brown [00:20:08]:
I am so opposite. I am anti packaged goods. I am anti consumerism. Like, just. It's so weird. So it's like to me, I was like, I want to have the most perfect knowledge. And then I want to get confirmed to me that I found the most perfect knowledge because I hate spending money on things I don't like. I feel like this weird thing.
Britney Brown [00:20:28]:
So it's so funny how there's so many different varieties out in the world. Sorry, that was a tangent.
Elizabeth Sage [00:20:33]:
No, that's okay. I think it's. It's hard because regulations are different in every state, and so it's hard to give anybody a. You can give them an overarching education, but when it comes to what to look for in their state, which is what I think a lot of people want to know, like, well, I'm in Illinois. What should I get? It's like, well, you should probably get over to Michigan. They've got a lot better stuff, is what you should. Correct. But if you want to stay there, you know, like, here's.
Elizabeth Sage [00:21:00]:
Here's a handful of things. So it's really. I think when people start to understand, I do really enjoy ingredients. And so a lot of people don't understand the difference between distillate, a live resin and a rosin. And understanding, you know, like, if Cane sugar is the first ingredient. Like, that's probably not going to be your healthiest option. I think we do a big disservice to a lot of cancer patients, a lot of people who are using, you know, cannabis, whether it's, you know, marijuana or hemp derived, giving them this modality that is pure sugar, when we know that's exactly what the cancer is looking for. I don't know how gummies became the thing, and that's, you know, like, what a huge portion of the market is.
Elizabeth Sage [00:21:43]:
We just. We want it to be like candy and taste good, which I totally understand. But I think helping people move past that and finding different. Different modalities that still serve those same purposes, but maybe honor the plant a little more and are at least able to get, like whole plant ingredients. So, you know, allowing consumers to understand the difference between. This was made from, you know, distilled down to a single isolate, and this is all of the parts of the plant that have benefits. So it's not just uchc, but there's probably some cbd, There might be some cbg, maybe some cbc, all of these other things. And there.
Elizabeth Sage [00:22:19]:
There are like flavonoids and thiols and esters and all of these other components to the plant that you can get with full spectrum that you don't get from other things. So your question was where to get that information? I guess just listen to this and I just told you everything you need to know.
Elizabeth [00:22:36]:
We will link it in the show notes. They'll be in the show notes.
Britney Brown [00:22:40]:
What I hear is we're going to put a link to the can of basics. I don't know if you have a PDF yet of your 12 favorite episodes.
Elizabeth Sage [00:22:47]:
No, I could, I could.
Britney Brown [00:22:49]:
Yeah, I would listen. That would be the order I would probably listen to things in because I am that person that we just spoke about. Like, I barely, like, came over here, but I knew that there was something here and I knew that there were so many women in the position that I had been where, you know, I kind of just stayed away from it. I used alcohol and I. It wasn't great. And I was going through postpartum and so I knew there were so many women like me that something wasn't right, but they couldn't pinpoint it and they don't know what else is out there. But in terms of education, I feel like I still know 1% of what needs know to be out there. I just know my skill is best combining the two worlds.
Britney Brown [00:23:32]:
Like, I'm never going to be able to learn enough to tell everybody. So that will help finding where I can bring those resources to the women that are just kind of women or men or individuals getting over that hump. Because until I believe, until you can feel comfortable knowing what to ask for or feeling comfortable in what you try, you are going to just maybe grab the gummy that tastes good, because that doesn't have to rewire your brain. You know, it tastes good and you're safe and you're comfortable. So all that to say, I think that there's a huge realm out there of disconnect that all this together will bring so much. So we will link all that in the show notes for you, the listeners.
Elizabeth Sage [00:24:15]:
You know, the other thing I just want to touch on is I think a big part of the resistance to the education is the illegality of it, because we talk very freely about it, because hemp is legal under the farm bill, because I live in a state where I can possess cannabis and not get in trouble for it as long as it's within the limits. But a lot of people, half the country does not. And so for a lot of people, this is still a very taboo topic. It's not something that people are having open conversations about, and there's real ramifications. And I think about some of the situations that I put myself in to get cannabis over the years that I've probably put my family and children in over the years. And that was, you know, a calculated risk, and I'm thankful that it turned out for me the way that it did. But a lot of people aren't. They don't know the benefits, so they don't know to take that risk.
Elizabeth Sage [00:25:02]:
They don't understand what we're working with. But it's, you know, women in particular, I think, are just different consumers. And I'm not saying that men necessarily consume more, but they consume differently because women, their roles as primary caregivers doesn't allow them that same flexibility to get maybe as high as they would like to, because they still have all of these other responsibilities that fall to them, and they can't risk losing their children either in states where it's not legal. And so it's interesting. I met a guy a couple weeks ago, and he was a single dad, and he was telling me his story, and he's kind of coming out of the cannabis closet for the first time in Minnesota, and he's really excited to talk to people about it. But he told me that same story, and I was like, do you know how many times I've heard that story. And do you know that you are the first man that I've ever heard that story from? And that is, you know, like, that's a lot of things. But I was just like, I was like, so like, you know, because it is everybody, I think we think of it as a female, you know, thing and us as mothers.
Elizabeth Sage [00:26:11]:
But there are a lot of men that are sole caregivers and primary caregivers and it's hard for them too. So, you know, breaking the stigma, the more people have a general based knowledge around it. I'm glad that CBD is legal in so many places. I'm disappointed that a lot of the market is what it is. It's been difficult to try and explain to people THCA and THCO and THCX and HHC and all of these other minor cannabinoids that the farm bill has bred. But at least it's opening the discussion.
Elizabeth [00:26:44]:
I would say that too. Adjacently. My husband is military and has an easily 100% connected rate outside of having deployed two times and we'll be deploying a third in April. And outside of that, he still can't even think about doing it without the risk of being kicked out of the military. And I know on two hands, people that we have lost to this world because they didn't have proper mental health treatment. And when I tell you this would have, could have and should have been a fucking option, it is one of the hills I will die on.
Elizabeth Sage [00:27:27]:
Cool athlete. Yeah, well. And it's maddening because you start to realize there's there, it's more than just cannabis. And that's what right I have really started. You know, like my journey the last four years has been like, oh no, it's not. It's our food, it's our water, it's our air. It's why I think that I don't smell as good as I used to because I wear natural deodorant. We make choices.
Elizabeth Sage [00:27:51]:
Do you know what I mean?
Elizabeth [00:27:51]:
We make choices. They're mitigated choices.
Elizabeth Sage [00:27:54]:
There's balance counts. We can't, you know, I know you.
Elizabeth [00:27:57]:
Weren'T making fun of me, for the record. Happened to be drinking a diet Mountain Dew mid.
Elizabeth Sage [00:28:03]:
Mid.
Elizabeth [00:28:03]:
Elizabeth's point.
Elizabeth Sage [00:28:05]:
Yeah, no, and I mean, because I do. I still love a Diet Coke, but I used to, I used to be able to drink a Diet Coke like every. I could drink 10 Diet Cokes a day. And, and now.
Elizabeth [00:28:16]:
And some vices take longer.
Elizabeth Sage [00:28:18]:
They do. It's part of it.
Elizabeth [00:28:19]:
It's part of your journey as well. Diet Mountain Dew is the one that I decided was my. Like, that's my one. That's the one I'm keeping. And it's wild because we have these weird pick and choose things, but also that's what makes us human. That's what makes us normal. No, we can't be infallible and only where you know, well, life is hard.
Elizabeth Sage [00:28:39]:
And like, if something makes you happy, if something makes you happy, and in the relative scheme of things, it's not hard, like harm reduction.
Britney Brown [00:28:49]:
Folks, I cannot thank you enough for coming on here.
Elizabeth [00:28:52]:
You've taught me so much today. Oh good.
Britney Brown [00:28:55]:
I absolutely adore you. I'm so happy we have a platform to share everything that you're doing and for our listener, we're going to connect all the amazing things she's doing in the show notes we talked about a lot today. And if there's any one tangent or nugget that speaks to you, email and let us know and we'll explain. Expand upon it for you so you can learn. But until then, we will see you next time. Thank you, Elizabeth.
Elizabeth Sage [00:29:20]:
Bye, Elizabeth. Bye bye.
Monica Olano [00:29:23]:
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